The Scoop with Tanya Flanagan

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Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Good morning, and thank you for joining me for The Scoop with Tanya Flanagan. I'm so happy you decided to wake up and start your day with me here on The Scoop where we talk about life, joy, funny moments, trending topics, and so much more. We promise to keep you in the know and find out what you know. So let's get started. Good morning Las Vegas. Welcome to The Scoop with me, Tanya Flanagan, here on KUNV 91.5 Jazz and More. I'm delighted that you have once again awakened to listen to the show and spend the beginning of your Sunday with me.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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We are at the end of 2024. It's hard to believe that we have seen what the changes, developments, accomplishments, triumphs, appointments, whatever growth you've experienced, goals you have set, those achieved, those not realized, put on the list for next year in 2025. But we are at the end of 2024. And it is something that just makes you take a moment to pause. I have with me this morning in the audience, I mean, the studio for this listening audience,

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Dr. Elizabeth Glover, ADD.

Tanya Flanagan
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Good morning.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Good morning.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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How are you? I'm well. I affectionately call you Liz. So I'm going to. Can I call you Liz? You can call me Liz.

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I'll call you Liz on the air because I have to remember to say Elizabeth when I've never

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really called her Elizabeth.

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And listen, people only say Elizabeth when I'm in trouble. Oh, so that they use your full, as we joke when we say, you full? That's when I'm like, what I do? Government name? Yep. When you are in trouble.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Well, you are full grown and able to chart your course and do what you want and you have done some amazing things on this journey. So thank you for coming to hang out with me this last, I think it's the last Sunday of the year. Thank you. Absolutely.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Thanks for having me and inviting me. Thank you. Well, before we jump into it, there are many people who don't know who you are. So we're going to go through those formalities and make sure we introduce you properly to people.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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So tell us a little bit about who you are and what you've done. I know you're from Chicago. I am. In Windy City. And everybody from Chicago will listen and wonder what side.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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So I got to say South Side. Okay. Did you know Michelle?

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Did you know her family?

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I always get those questions. I know you do.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Chance the Rapper is my cousin.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Really?

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Yeah.

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I like him. He is. He is.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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He's so perfect too.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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That is so cool.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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So yeah, I'm from Chicago. Okay. Born and raised. And then I became a part of a military family through marriage to an amazing service member in my early 20s. So then we moved all around the country. We lived in Texas, Colorado, did six years in each of those localities, and then I ended

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up here. And it's really ironic because at first I was like, this is not for me. I love to just vacate in Las Vegas, get somebody else to do it. But it was just, it was put on my heart and it just wouldn't leave my heart. So here I am and I just jumped right in doing the work. I am a sociologist.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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I always have been before I even had the terminology to put to it. And then, you know, it took for me to leave my college prep school that never talked about sociology to just a school in the suburbs that everybody was on to. And they gave me more of an open experience than I ever had. And it was then that I took sociological courses. And so that was my focus in undergrad.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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That was my focus in my master's pursuit. And it was a big focus of my dissertation studies and throughout my whole entire doctoral program. So while I ended up getting my doctorate degree in education with the emphasis in higher learning, I was able to infuse my research and all of my practice. There wasn't an assignment I didn't do where I was connecting sociology to the educational experience. So now here I am out in the world, and my advocacy always looks like the fusion of the two,

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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being socially responsible, being socially cognizant, but then also using that information to educate people, to create change, and just to build the positivity that we want to see, especially when it comes to sustainability. So that's kind of my pathway, how I got here, and that's me in a nutshell. That's fascinating. I'm enthralled. I have seen you and watched you from a distance. Coming to you work both with the 100 Black Women and also with the National Action Network.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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And I've had several conversations here on the show with members of the National Action Network family, talking about education, Kristina Laster. We talked about her a little bit, has been on a couple times. But it is just always intriguing to me when you meet, you see people in the community and you see the fire, because you have this aura about you.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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You know, you're ready, you're young. You say you're early 20s, and I'm like, she's not in her 20s. I'm in my Jesus year, 33.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Okay.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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33.

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We should celebrate the birthday.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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So it's just all around.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Yeah, yeah.

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But you see the energy,

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because young people have a different energy and I love it. The world is your oyster. You're charting new paths. You're creating new ideas. You're introducing them and you're bold. And this is a different time.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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And I think women are in a space now in the world where we are much bolder and ready and taken seriously in a different way. So kudos to you. Thank you for the power that you possess and congratulations to you on the many goals that you have accomplished. What would you say is the most, the thing you are most proud of? I think one of the things I am most proud of is my ability to take a situation with an individual that I'm advocating for

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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that is sustainable and that is enforced and accounted for on a much grander scale. So every time I'm advocating for a person, it's never about that person. And even when I'm working with different individuals or institutions and they're trying to give me what some might see as a total package deal, let's just make Dr. Liz go away, we don't want the smoke, let's give this person whatever she say they should get. I have to always think, but is what they're giving sustainable to where everybody that

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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comes behind them will benefit? And when I can see the fruits of those labors, from prison reform to the education system and all that I do, that's what makes me just most pleased with myself. That's very thoughtful. And it's really a great point that you make about sustainability because oftentimes we do work on programs and it's like the item that's on sale today but it's not on sale tomorrow or it's only good for

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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a few but it's not good for the majority. And it takes a lot of selflessness to work long enough and hard enough to create an outcome that benefits the majority versus the minority. Because sometimes they dangle temporary solutions in front of you that many might just say, take the win. But is it really a win?

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Right, exactly. It would be disingenuous to myself. Or was it just pacifying you in the moment to get you, like you said. To get me on out the way. Yeah, so I'm just always at a place where I can't be disingenuous with Elizabeth because I hold her accountable.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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And at the end of the day, my spirit has to be able to rest well with the work that I'm doing and who I'm representing and all that I do. I love that. And Nan, you focus on education, K-12, the National Action Network. What are some of the goals there? Because the National Action Network to me is kind of the whistleblower for all sorts of things,

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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whether the consciousness, hey, knock, knock, knock, you're not doing this fairly, you're doing this different. What do you see happening while you're there in the space of education? Because we have a lot of going on. Yeah, especially in K-12 education here, a lot going on with education. The school board is transforming.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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The superintendent role is changing. This magnet school program is the district too large. Should the district be broken? If you did break it, how would you do it? What's on your mind when it comes to education? So you mentioned goals, and as chair of education,

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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specifically K-12 with National Action Network, goal of mine is equity in the education environment from a social perspective. I am so tired of seeing schools intertwine the definition of equity with equality and denouncing the cultural relevance that some students need to have considered. I'm tired of seeing cultural inclusiveness trainings, but no effectiveness, no outcomes, no accountability, no one's checking for anything. And we're told that the department, the DEI

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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department for the district is so small, but you have all these grassroots organizations to be the boots on the ground, to work with these cultural inclusive champions, to keep them accountable. So for me, the big goal is making sure that these students have a voice, the underrepresented, the underserved, those that are over-penalized, over-suspended, if I can bust down as much as possible the school to prison pipeline,

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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by first even getting schools to acknowledge that that's a thing, then for me, that's a huge satisfaction. Okay, that's a lot and it is a goal. But it's a lot of consciousness. Because I think we see,

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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it's such a different time how our children are viewed in the educational space. And it's both like the greatest time in their lives and yet the scariest time maybe in our society. Right. Because they have so much opportunity but they have so much more exposure to things that grow them up at a rapid pace that

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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wasn't happening to generations before them. So they're coping, we're learning. Right. Because you, I remember going through the era when I think everybody was just hopeful that it could go back to the way it was. Yeah. And then finally the light bulb really clicked on you like we're never going back. Right. Right. We're never going back to the days of Andy Griffith or happy days of dating myself or. Right. Even the Cosby show or that's a different world

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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or whatever those shows were that were full of lessons and wholesome and safe and very little was put in your kids face now We you know watching going through the boondocks to whatever it is that's out there that they just learn so much and they're supposed to so much right and Looking at them and not being afraid of them because I used to do a lot of grassroots community work with kids in lower income housing Communities and people in professional backless, you know jobs would say hey, what can I do to come over and help you?

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Yeah, when you can come over and spend time with the kids and it would be like crickets, right? Absolutely, I can ask for they want to help from afar and they would like to check did not ask this question I'm giving you an invitation to come and mentor a child to come and help Exactly to come and be present to be present and wear your suit or your pretty dress and your heels and be here as a beacon of light and an example that they can touch, see, and relate to. And yes, it's going to take time, but I still need you to come and do this.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Yeah, because the representation matters. Too many children don't see themselves and the adults serving them every day. And I'm not even just talking about black and brown children. I'm talking about those with economical challenges. I'm talking about those with various abilities. I'm talking about all those dynamics.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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So they need the presence. I will never forget when I was a K-12 administrator, my job was just to oversee teaching and learning for grades K through 5. That's all. Nothing discipline, nothing behavior, nothing with the big kids upstairs. But my office was up there.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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And I will never forget every time they would have the underrepresented and underserved in that disciplinary office for something that they did or they reacted to and all I have to do is walk in that office and the way they would go from slouching to sitting up and you know they saw themselves in me I can be her before I even opened my mouth just to see my presence made a difference for them so they need us to show up.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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They don't know who's behind the $5 or $10 donation that was placed online, but they do know who actually showed up and was an example to them on how to conduct themselves, how to respond to challenging situations and environments, especially on top of them being overstimulated with everything technology gives. There are also many children are part of this no snitching culture. So then when things are happening, they don't know how to navigate it.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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They don't know who to tell, is it okay to tell, is it not cool to tell, and they're figuring out a lot of things on their own. And so a lot of the big picture, I had a conversation with a teacher yesterday, and she said, Dr. Liz, don't you just think it's just too much pressure being put on us as teachers, though, the cultural inclusiveness and diversity, equity, inclusion, and this and that. And I said, no, let's start by being a human and just showing these children that you see

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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them as a person. Try to understand the why. We're always reacting to what they did, how they responded. Why did they do it? Nobody ever asked. Care about the antecedent.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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If you target the antecedent, you target the behavior. Behavior is just communication. But when we have administrators who have decided that doesn't matter, that doesn't give them a right, society's not gonna say they have a right to do this,

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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but they're not outgrown in society yet. Right now we're still molding them. And if we have the ability to say, help me understand your why. How did the community impact you to make you do that? OK, now let's talk about your responsibility also to the community. And let's have that conversation of accountability. Children are more willing to have that when they first feel seen and heard.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Then they're teachable, not just socially. But now you can get to the academia and the curriculum. But you can't do that when they're fighting the social barriers every day that just lead them to prison, ultimately. I feel like there's like a curriculum. Basically, what you're talking about is here is a process by which we should navigate this space to help kids, teachers,

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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families. Right. And if we could put this curriculum in place, the difference that it can be. I've always said in the most simple sense, children perform for those who love them. They're performing for someone. They want someone to be pleased with their performance.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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But if no one is there to be pleased with my performance, then who am I doing it for? Because at that very young age, very few children, you're going to have some who do 100% get that they're doing it for themselves. But that's a special type of child. That's the one in however many child that gets that, I'm doing this for me and this is for my future. At that early age, they want mommy to be happy,

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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auntie to be happy, somebody to be pleased with what they've done. And so they perform for someone. But if you don't have anyone that's pouring into you that makes you feel like they're there to care about you and you don't get it on your own,

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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then you have the why, but I agree with you. It feels very rare that someone says, why? And I've had that reaction many times when I see a kid in trouble Mm-hmm, you know, maybe it's a report on the news or you're in a meeting or something and I'm like to anybody figure out

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Why the baby did yeah, I mean, let's just look at you know

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We see these heinous acts that children have committed in schools Then they go and interview neighbors friends And I use the word friends loosely and all these people talk about how socially disconnected they were How they were ostracized, picked on, mistreated, isolated. It's never the ones who had social support that go out and do this, because to your point of performing, in sociology, we call it like a dramaturgical analysis.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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And you have your front stage, when you are outperforming for people every single day. But then you have your backstage, where it's just you and your mind and your process and then reprocessing. I could have did this. I should have did this. Why am I like that? I'm different from them your process and all these things and in the backstage You're also trying to get dressed for the next scene Which is the next part of your day that you have to step on and perform again and hope that you get a standing ovation

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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But what about when no one in the audience is cheering for you? So now we're creating was a self-fulfilling prophecy Like the labeling theory when you expect kids to be negatively deviant and then they perform just like that. Just like you expect them to because you're feeding. Exactly. You know, we say things and then we poison our own minds toward each other, not just

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children, but just in general, just with the stereotypes that people have or the reactions that they have or the misunderstanding because there's such a generational gap, you know, and we're in such a different space, you know, of free expression of different expression from tattoo artistry to piercings to hairstyles to styles of dress To music to culture to movies all of it right is made has created a different On the one side, it's genius all the things that they have access to right build upon

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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But to those who don't understand it, it's like uncharted territory that's frightening and uncomfortable. Right. And a lot of adults are of the do as I say, not as I do, phenomena. They are of the because I said so, phenomena. They are on the children should be seen and not heard phenomena. And then they have these mentalities. So then when you have children who are brave enough or curious enough to even

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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respectfully challenge that, they're seen as being insubordinate. We're not creating safe spaces to understand them. And we're walking around like, what's there to understand? We weren't understood. Yeah, that's the problem.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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That's the problem.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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I think that goes back to my comment earlier that says we're like, generationally leaps and bounds forward from where we used to be.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Right.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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And the generational divide is great and adds some difficulty. Yeah. To how we make things better in this space because it's required. Like I said, I think I made the comment about the period that we went through where you just wanted to go back to the way it was, and then you finally had to realize it's never going to go back to the way it was.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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And even though some of the things that were part of our historic, our culture, historically are no longer part of us in present day, and it would be good if we had some of it right but we don't have as much of it as we used to even just from etiquette and social training sometimes for young girls the things that we see would have never seen right just I mean you see everything from pajamas and robes at the grocery store you go wait what mm-hmm and it's just simple things to the major things right

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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yeah but we're just in a different time and how do you you know, yeah. Yeah, and You know all the emphasis is not even just on schools. Those are an agent of socialization But you've touched on so much that you've touched on that school. You've touched really on culture. Yeah on society on community on intervention and creating these new outcomes.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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And I went and visited the women's prison a few weeks ago. And one of my biggest questions when I was there, because they're training women to reenter society, those who have offended, but the jobs, like it's not that they're saying this company is signed up to employ X number of people when they come out.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Sure, there's an effort to better prepare people to be equipped to acquire employment, but are you really? And who's committed to saying I'm going to save 5% or 10% of my new hire positions for this population? Like you said, who's committed?

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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And then what's the accountability piece looking like? Because some companies have those initiatives, but no one's keeping them accountable to make sure that that's happening. So you can give me all the soft skills of employability in the world,

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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but if they have a system or algorithm set up against me that prohibits me from getting into the workplace. Now, I'm more likely to reoffend and add to that recidivism rate because I have to steal make away from myself in society and I put some people in the mindset of even if that means deviating from was legal.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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I tried the American way quote-unquote. You all keep boxing me out and exiting me out so I'll create my own pathway and then now I'm back in prison and then we have these things in place. It's a vicious cycle. It's a vicious cycle. It's a vicious cycle. And it's a vicious cycle male or female. Right. It's just a and it's it is a vicious cycle regardless of race, regardless of gender

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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and regardless of socioeconomic status and the only time it might not get you is if there was a good economic cushion before you went and you just disrespected and disregarded the economic barriers and cushions padding that you had to do what you thought was cool. Because some people do things that they think is cool. And then there's consequence for those choices. And when you come out, that support system is still there.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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So maybe it's a little different, but if that support system was never there, then it doesn't matter what color you are, what gender you are, or what socioeconomic background you come from, you may see yourself repeating and returning. Well, and there's even less leniency if you do also. So there's the one barrier of being formerly incarcerated. And like you said,

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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that's not, those practices can impact people no matter what ethnic group, what socioeconomic background, but then there's the added barriers of, and if you're also an ethnic minority, I mean, the numbers don't lie. If we look at how many people in prison are black or brown, and we compare that percentage to how many people in America are black and brown, we notice the disparity. So it's real.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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So now you have to go back in front of the courts. You are looking at a situation of receiving less leniency than your counterpart would. So you have to have even more tenacity to somehow figure it out on how to be a productive, quote unquote, member of society so you don't end up back in a situation. And it's difficult. It's difficult to navigate. And there's not enough resources showing the how. Everyone's saying just do right. Just do this. How? Help me. Sure. That's true. And you assume because you've exposed them to some scale.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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I don't care if it's cosmetology or some trade scale. Oh, well, now you have this. It's still not that simple. There has to be more in that space. Your life is so interesting. The things that you work on are very, I feel like there's all this stuff to talk about, and I'm not going to get to talk about all of it, which always happens. I invite people on the show to get to know them and to allow the community to get to know them by listening in. And you just it's like a book. And it is a life story that is very impressive. Thank you. And different ways these kinds of conversations call us to action. Right. You know and you're sitting there going

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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well how do I get involved or what can I do different? If you were reaching out or petitioning others to join you what would you say? How would they do it? Social media would find you. Right. Come meet with you at a meeting or do you do any workshops or things like that? Yeah. People can come to and learn more about how they can be a part of the projects that you're working on? Absolutely. So I wear many hats in the community. For National Action Network, I'm the education chair. For the National Coalition of 100 Black Women, I'm the health chair. And then for the NAACP, I'm the criminal justice chair.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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I didn't know that. I am. Yeah. So the list goes on and on. It makes sense because we started with education. We shifted to, you know, school to prison pipeline. Right. It's all connected.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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I'm sitting here feeling like I knew about the health component, but we weren't talking about it. We're going to have time. And I don't want to snip at it to talk about the health care component because anyone who knows me knows I'm a huge advocate for health care awareness because of my journey. But I didn't realize that you were doing criminal justice through the NAACP.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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I am. So if you have a heart to serve in either of those arenas or even beyond that, I'm sure I can connect you. You are more than welcome to follow me on social media platforms at EnlightenMeLiz. My website is also EnlightenMeLiz.com. You're welcome to explore and learn more. And I look forward to connecting with you. Well, folks, I suggest or encourage you, if you're interested in finding a way,

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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we're often maybe one of your new year's resolutions is to give more, to give back more, to spend more time in the community. And I've done a lot of different community organizations, and I always encourage you find something that you're passionate about, spend some time with it, make sure that organization, that group is doing the work that you identify with, and that you find respect in and that you

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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think you will enjoy. Because there are a lot of organizations out here on the front lines working every day to have some type of impact that improves people's lives. So make sure that whichever one you align yourself with, is doing work that you think is good and great and inspires you to want to be active and then get involved with that.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Yeah.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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And spend your time there. Yeah. I always say you're either part of the problem or part of the solution. There is no middle ground. And I say that because you need to be passionate. When you have worked your full day, dealt with whatever with your family or your personal

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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space or whatever additional responsibilities you have, when you're volunteering, it has to be a space of passion. So like the small kids aren't your thing, but teenagers are your thing. Right. Or maybe seniors are where you have like this feeling that tugs at your heart. You need to identify kids in foster care, maybe big brother, big sister. You know, I'm saying like there's kids who you may be.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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You're excellent at math and being a math tutor is your thing. So you just need to find what your niche is. You offer people a lot of opportunities to engage and I just like to remind people that there's so much so make sure you get something that you're passionate about because it will make you want to do the work. And also it's just a great way to get to know your community when you're involved with the community. You know,

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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it's a great way. Sometimes you go through phases of life where you're tired. I think I was watching Selma when Ava DuVernay did Selma and I was feeling really tired around the time that it came up because I was always so busy. And I watched that movie and I thought, I watched the things that they went through for you know, voting rights access and stuff. And I was like, I don't even deserve to say I'm tired.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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That movie made me sit there and go, I don't even deserve to say I'm tired. God forgive me for even saying I'm tired. It really did. It convicted me. It convicted me to go, you are not tired. Yeah, you have not faced a fraction of what those people faced to give people opportunity for equity and access equality and parity.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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You have faced a fraction of the challenge. Right? And it just re-energized me too. That's something to just really keep it in the back of anyone's mind. I think sometimes we forget those who have gone before. I really we don't take for granted. Yeah, you hear about Dr. King

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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and we're about to approach the holiday again and celebrate with a parade. But there's so much to that. Right. That we forget these are the sacrifices. Yeah.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
0:27:26
So the things that give you access to vote, to buy houses, to have jobs, to be in boardrooms, any of that are huge accomplishments and you can't take it lightly that you're there. I mean, because the sad part is a lot of times you're still the only one sitting there. Right. And if you don't know your history, my grandmother always said, it becomes your future.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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We have people now trying to take Dr. King and what he's still for and say, see, he wouldn't want D&I, you know, because he just wanted colorblindness. And we have people trying to manipulate history. Why are we voting about voting rights? Oh, my God. And you said that for a minute. That wasn't permanent. That was like a something that's gonna sunset and it and I guess because then they thought 30 or 50 years was forever It's not right. So often it well, wasn't it just a law that was forever? Yeah, absolutely We are coming into the last few seconds and why we had a chance to share your social media

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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I want to thank everyone for once again getting up and tuning in I don't know if you have some New Year's resolutions We'll be back next week probably talking a little bit about that and just where we're going at 2025. I want to thank Dr. Liz, Dr. Elizabeth, who I affectionately call Liz Glover for joining me.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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You can check her out through NAN, through NAACP, and through the 100 Black Women of Las Vegas Coalition Chapter. Until we meet here again next week, stay safe, stay well, stay blessed, and happy new year. Happy new year. I want to thank you for tuning in to The Scoop with me, Tanya Flanagan.

Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Tanya Flanagan/Dr. Elizabeth Glover
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Stay safe and have a great week. Stay safe and have a great week.

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